From jpg@ai.mit.edu Thu Jun 27 19:18:51 2002
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:18:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: JP Grossman <jpg@ai.mit.edu>
To: William B. <quakeproplus@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Mr Grossman #6


> >Just like Stan heard that other people had requested source and I >denied 
> >their requests?  Just like someone told me my security had been >cracked a 
> >couple of days after it was released?  Just like someone who >was angry 
> >with you told people that xquake breaks computers?  Don't >believe 
> >everything you hear Bill.  With few exceptions, I write my own >code.  
> >Theonly people who have ever sent me code are the guys in the >1134 clan 
> >who were helping me out with sqpro, and any time I inserted >code sent by 
> >them I commented it appropriately.
> 
> I have a demo of you saying "XQuake breaks computers" along with other 
> slanderous accusations. If you don't believe me I can send it to you. I also 

You are unbelievable.  Of course I said that!  I was referring to myself
in the paragraph you quote above!  I, unlike you, am owning up to whatever
I've done that I shouldn't have.  In this case I was using it as an
example of how you have to treat anything you hear online with skepticism.

> assisted you with the maximum FPS code. Yet my assistance was not noted. So 
> yes I do have "proof" that you have done these things.

I'm really getting sick of this.  If you don't know what you're trying to
say, just don't say it.  I emailed you a yes/no question and you emailed
me back a "no" answer.. that is a far cry from sending me code.

> >What continues to astound me, more than anything else, is your failure >to 
> >acknowledge the fact that without the GPL, you would not have a >project.
> 
> I have told you my intention was always to release the source code. I chose 
> only to release "portions" of the source code until the core work was 
> finished. I tried to be accomodating with releasing the source best I felt I 
> could to support the project even though I knew I wasn't fully complying 
> with the GPL.

Remember what I said earlier about skepticism?  In this case actions speak
much, much louder than words.

> Mr. Grossman you have antagonized me and my motives from the outset. I have 
> tried to be honest with you and tell you my reasons. It's fine if you don't 
> agree with the reasons I have laid out, but don't call me a liar in the 

I really don't see what other conclusion you expect me to come to when you
keep changing your story around.  Why don't you go back and reread all of
your emails in sequential order and try to imagine how they sound to
someone else.

> process. "Thems just fighting words." Whether you believe me or not I have 
> told you I am prepared to now "fully" comply with the GPL and I would 
> appreciate having the opportunity to work together. If you don't agree with 
> the reasons I laid out that's fine too, we can agree to disagree. Let's get 
> by this and have a fresh start.

For now I've made up my mind.  Give me some peace for a few days so I can
get some work done, then email me again when you can offer me something
more substantial than your word to show that you are prepared to comply
with the GPL.

J.P.